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Re: Allied victory at Midway, entire Jap fleet sunk

Posted: 09 Sep 2009 16:30
by [RS]Rocket_J
Thanks for all the hard work making this thing go.

We're looking forward to Round 2.

Mulligan? Isn't that the Refly Button?

~S~

Re: Allied victory at Midway, entire Jap fleet sunk

Posted: 09 Sep 2009 16:39
by Tiger
AKA_Relent wrote:I think a couple more AKA were registering and were going to check it out tonight, so I'll link to this thread so guys know you're restarting it on the 14th (assuming we'll stay on the same side we were on this week, as you're repeating it again later in the month).
S!~ Rel,

Yes, you will be staying on the same team for the first round, then we'll tally the scores, switch sides, and go again. I did receive a few more registrations from AKA, and I do hope that you and your mates will be around for the entire campaign.

Re: Allied victory at Midway, entire Jap fleet sunk

Posted: 09 Sep 2009 18:02
by Python
Salute

Tiger I hit a big destroyer with torpedoes and they do not blow up they look to hit ship but no explosions I am wandering if there is something in the setup that needs fixed I know I hit it 4 times in the side and there is no damage oh by the way the Jap fleet is parked off Midway bombing it I was surprised that I was blown up 4 times before I reliazed they were there lol

Re: Allied victory at Midway, entire Jap fleet sunk

Posted: 09 Sep 2009 18:13
by Warren
Same thing has happened to me Python. Large DDs do require 2 torpedos.

There are a couple of things that could be happening. Either you are to far away to see the explosion, or the torpedo was a dud......... and yes there are dud torpedos modeled in IL2............. or so I have been told. :|

Re: Allied victory at Midway, entire Jap fleet sunk

Posted: 09 Sep 2009 18:18
by Python
Salute

Ok I can see 1 maybe two dudes but 4 if thats the case I think the person in charge of loading my ammo should be shot:)

Re: Allied victory at Midway, entire Jap fleet sunk

Posted: 09 Sep 2009 19:39
by RAF209_Benge
Welcome to the Mark XIII Torpedo

Mark 13 Air Launched Torpedo.
This 2,200 pound weapon had been introduced in 1938, had not been adequately tested, but was the only one available. Its use required release at less than 60 feet and slow air speed. Over a year after the Battle of Midway and after some improvements, the Bureau of Ordinance ran a test with over 100 torpedoes and found only 31 percent gave a satisfactory run. Add to this -- exploder problems and erratic launches under fire against evading targets -- it is no wonder that dive bombing became the attack method of choice.
"Black Cat Raiders" by R. C. Knott
The Mk 13 aerial torpedo design dated from the early 1930s. It was stubby. It's warhead originally carried 400 pounds of TNT, later 600 pounds of Torpex, that made it nose-heavy. Fleet squadrons limited drops to 50 feet at no more than 110 knots from a range of approximately 800 yards. Performance was so bad (until improved in 1944) as to make American torpedo-plane attacks well nigh futile.
"Unknown Battle of Midway" by Alvin Kernan

Air Attacks
Lea -- 13 launched, one hit ; in harbor
Tulagi -- 22 launched, one hit ; in harbor
Shoho -- 24 launched, 7 hits ; already damaged by bombs
Shokaku -- 20 launched, no hits.
Midway -- 51 torpedoes carried, no hits, 43 planes lost.
Suzuya -- 6 torpedoes, improved Mod 2, three reported explosions. Japs reported none.
Tactical Problem . The torpedo was so slow and short range that a ship could outrun a torpedo not launched from ahead. The TBD Devastator was too slow to get ahead of a turning ship. The torpedo made a clear wake allowing ships to steer away from its path. Some were observed in clear water on stationary targets to go under the enemy ship and detonate on the other side. Slow air speed allowed fighters to easily catch the torpedo bombers and approaches to 800 yards allowed hits by all calibers of ship-borne anti-aircraft guns. The model 2, was introduced after Midway : many reported hits were actually premature explosions, according to Japanese records. Therefore many reported hits and sinkings were false.
Further improvements in 1943 allowed drops at higher speeds and altitudes and resulted in 40% hit rates. Six engagements listed above with 136 torpedoes scored 7%, sinking only transport Yokohama Maru, destroyer Kikuzuki, and light carrier Shoko.

Re: Allied victory at Midway, entire Jap fleet sunk

Posted: 10 Sep 2009 00:17
by S.L.N
I feel horrible about how i did during what little time i did get.
you can expect a ticked off sln, and if you ask my family about how i race motorcycles when im pissed
well........... :twisted:

Re: Allied victory at Midway, entire Jap fleet sunk

Posted: 10 Sep 2009 09:45
by Medar
WOW - great info on the torpedoes and ordinance...good stuff to know.

Thanks for posting Benge.