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Re: I have installed UP 3.0, cannot join WOW server...

Posted: 03 Jun 2011 14:01
by JL_Grube
Same issues here .... fresh 4.10.1 game 3.0 over that , everything runs great , go to connect to wings of war connection success then timeout= 0 ........

Re: I have installed UP 3.0, cannot join WOW server...

Posted: 03 Jun 2011 17:29
by WWSpardog
Salute!

WW members have downloaded and installed UP_30 and have been playing 4.10.1 and UP_30 rooms successfully. WW's have hosted 30 coops with no problems... but, we, too, are at a loss as to why we are getting a time out whenever we try to join your WOW server via HL.

A room in HL who is presently testing UP_30 is Battle of Britain. Periodically, you must reduce your video card RAM to successfully enter successfully and depending S3TC requirements set by host you may have to modify your conf.ini:

S3TC is a texture compression method; requiring it's use is more of a memory issue than anything. I've seen this repeatedly in bug reports on UP3.0 over at the UltraPack forums: There is so much *stuff* in some missions, on some maps, that players simply run out of system and/or video memory to load everything. Using S3TC compression may or may not help, but apparently the Battle of Britain server hosts/admins think it will make a positive improvement. Only way to know for sure is to try it out.

Two ways (well, lots of ways actually) to enable S3TC texture compression.

1) Open il2setup.exe and turn it on (it's found in the video options tab). If you do so, you *will* need to re-edit your conf.ini file afterwards if you have a custom screen resolution set.

2) Since we need to edit conf.ini anyway, let's go straight to the part that needs changing. Open conf.ini in a text editor, look for the OpenGL section:



Quote:
[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=1
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1




If the two lines in red have "=0" at the end, change it to "=1". Save file, done. Go test.

Re: I have installed UP 3.0, cannot join WOW server...

Posted: 03 Jun 2011 17:47
by Tiger
S!~ Spardog,

I'm not quite sure that I understand. You indicate that WW members are having trouble joining the Wings~of~War server, and you offer a solution (thank you!), but I can't tell from your post whether or not the proposed solution is working for those WW members who have had issues joining the Wings~of~War server. Can you please clarify?

Re: I have installed UP 3.0, cannot join WOW server...

Posted: 03 Jun 2011 19:01
by WWSpardog
My pleasure, sir.

The "solution" was for UP_30RC servers where folks were not able to enter.. Some server hosts during UP_30 games (i.e. Battle of Britain listed in GAMES IN PROGRESS in HL) are using S3TC which prevents entry to folks using non-S3TC compression. The post with the red shows how you can set your conf.ini so that you can fly in both S3TC and non-S3TC compression.

This "solution" has not been successful in your server. I forgot to paste this sentence... my bad.

However, the reason for no entry appears be the following:

Received Time outs when UP_30 enabled. So disabled UP_30 in the JSGME and got the following for no entry to your server:

Reason: Server uses a different version (4.10.1m + MDS v1.2 for UP v1.2 RC2).

So it appears you cannot enable 3.0 in JSGME or 4.10.1 without also enabling MDS, and MDS v1.2 RC2 is not one of the mods available after installing UP_30RC.
:shock:

Sorry for the confusion I caused.

Re: I have installed UP 3.0, cannot join WOW server...

Posted: 03 Jun 2011 20:21
by Tiger
Thank you for clarifying, but now I am confused but it is no fault of yours. I am able to enter the server with UP 3.0 enabled, and it appears that others are as well. So, I am not sure why some cannot enter the server.

Re: I have installed UP 3.0, cannot join WOW server...

Posted: 03 Jun 2011 21:09
by WWSpardog
No joy here. Still getting Timout=0 when UP_30 enabled in JSGME.

You can enter with no problem. What are your UP_30 settings?

Mine:

Re: I have installed UP 3.0, cannot join WOW server...

Posted: 03 Jun 2011 22:47
by Tiger
The differences for me from your settings would be 512MB RAM Usage, no Expert Mode, and no 4GB Memory Address. Also, my game is set to launch at 0 seconds and I have selected Start immediately, no countdown. But, I doubt that has any effect on the timeout.

Re: I have installed UP 3.0, cannot join WOW server...

Posted: 03 Jun 2011 23:08
by BigO
S!

Just some more info:

I have

512 MB Ram usage - selected
Automatically launch IL2 - Not checked
Start Immediately - Not checked
Exit Selector wehn Il-2 quits - checked
6dof/trackIR enabled - checked
Expert Mode - Not Checked
4GM Address Space - Not Checked
Allow Multiple IL-2 Instances - Not Checked


And I have no problem getting into WoW server.

Re: I have installed UP 3.0, cannot join WOW server...

Posted: 04 Jun 2011 06:33
by WWSpardog
Well, no luck joining your server. Connection okay, but then its Timeout=0. Even after changing my settings to match each of yours, the result is the same: Timeout=0.

My UP_30RC is a clean install. I am successful in joining servers on HL who are using UP_30RC, and I'm able to join WW coops using UP_30RC. But not Wings~of~War. I don't know why.

I wish you well on the upcoming campaign.

Salute!

Re: I have installed UP 3.0, cannot join WOW server...

Posted: 04 Jun 2011 08:26
by Tiger
S!~ Spardog,

Do you use the same installation or UP 3.0 download for Ghost Skies? Boomer did a clean install and the only indication that it was corrupt was that he could not join the Ghost Skies or Wings~of~War servers. He could join other UP 3.0 servers because they are not running CRT=2. Once he downloaded a fresh torrent and set his game up again he was able to join.